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Was it all it was cracked up to be? Like becoming famous, becoming well-known. I don't think that I ever thought that I
was going to be famous. I quit IBM in ' 84. My mother's first question was, "Are
you on the dope?" Whatever the dope was. My goal was to be good enough to be on
Johnny Carson. And everybody in the business said, "It took you 10 years to be that good." And it took me 5 years
and two months. Every full life needs to have a few hold your nose and jump
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