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You've stumbled upon another episode of Startups with the Rest of Us. I'm Rob Walling and in this hot take Tuesday, I
welcome back Anar Vulcet and Tracy Osborne as we talk about chat GPT5 and
the struggles they've had with that release, whether we're in an AI bubble, and a few other relevant news items. One
of them actually deeply relevant to SAS sales. Before we dive into the episode, I want to let you know that Tiny Seed
applications are open for the fall 2025 batch. If you're a B2B SAS founder with at least $1,000 in MR and you're looking
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