Episode 734 | The 20 Year Bootstrapper (With Ian Landsman)

welcome to this episode of startups to the rest of us I'm Rob Walling and this week I talk with Ian lansman the founder

of helpspot Ian has been bootstrapping for almost 20 years and he started with

on-prem software and then after about 10 years launched a SAS version Ian and I

have known each other almost that same 20 years from back in the days of Jolan software's business of software forums

and over the years Ian has started a few of his own podcasts as well as spoken at microcom I believe if I were to guess it