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ESPN did a piece on me and what what happened was uh by that time it was 25
years after I had my first heart transplant I didn't want to talk about my transplant but anyways I did this thing for ESPN and I went back to Wales
where I got the original transplant and I had this sort of epiphany as I was standing in front of the grave site of
the young man whose heart was in my chest had been there for a quarter century and I was standing with his dad
and I just had this Epiphany where for the past 25 years had it had always been about me how do I make more money how do
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